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Is a Theory of the Sublime Possible?

2007· article· en· W2132705190 on OpenAlexaff
Jane Forsey

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VenueJournal of Aesthetics and Art Criticism · 2007
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldArts and Humanities
TopicPhilosophy, Ethics, and Existentialism
Canadian institutionsUniversity of Winnipeg
Fundersnot available
KeywordsSublimeAestheticsArtPhilosophy

Abstract

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>The aesthetic notion of the sublime has had a great deal of attention in the last decade or so, engendering monographs by Paul Crowther, Jean‐François Lyotard, and Kirk Pillow, critical anthologies from Dabney Townsend and from Andrew Ashfield and Peter de Bolla, and numerous journal articles, conference panels, and symposia.1 This renewal of interest is perhaps timely: a notion that conjures up the inexplicable, the overwhelming, and the horrendous may be well suited to the current age. It is perhaps also timely that we take a step back from this respectable and growing body of research to attend to a single voice that once asked a very important question: “How is a theory of the sublime possible?”2 Guy Sircello was concerned that our efforts to capture and explain the sublime have in fact resulted in claims that are either contradictory or incoherent, due to tensions between (often unarticulated) epistemological and ontological commitments. He also sought to remedy the very problem he posed, with suggestions as to how a coherent theory of the sublime should proceed. The present article takes up the problem as Sircello first voiced it, but without his final optimism. What I offer amounts to an error theory: our current theorizing about the sublime rests on a mistake. I will claim that if we accept the problem as Sircello had described it, his own proposed solution is bound to fail. But if we reject his general methodological assumptions, what we will be left with is so limited that a general theory of the sublime will remain out of our reach. Additionally, I will expand on the evidence Sircello garnered for his case by attending in some detail to the most sophisticated treatment of the sublime we have: that of Immanuel Kant's work in the third Critique. But first, the problem itself. Sircello took as his starting point the generally accepted notion that sublime experience “professes to ‘see’ beyond human powers of knowledge and description” and that because of this it is inaccessible to rational thought (p. 541). Further, in the descriptions of the sublime he canvassed, Sircello found the operation of a general assumption that our cognitive powers are revealed, in the moment, to have what he called “radically limited access” to some broadly construed notion of “reality” (p. 543). There is a great deal of prima facie evidence for this general claim. Sircello mined such sources as the Tao, Zen Buddhism, and the poetry of Wordsworth and the Romantics, but philosophers writing on the sublime provide similar evidence, and it is with philosophical theory that I am most concerned. Consider the following. Joseph Addison wrote in the Spectator of 1812 that “our imagination loves to be filled with an object, or to grasp at anything that is too big for its capacity.”3 The Earl of Shaftsbury rhapsodized about the sublimity of nature in this way: “Thy being is boundless, unsearchable; impenetrable. In thy immensity all thought is lost; fancy gives over its flight: and wearied imagination spends itself in vain.”4 Edmund Burke claimed that the passion caused by the sublime is astonishment, “and astonishment is that state of the soul, in which all its motions are suspended. … The mind is so entirely filled with its object that it cannot entertain any other, nor by consequence reason on that object which employs it.”5 In the twentieth century, Jean‐François Lyotard famously wrote of the postmodern as truly sublime, that which “puts forward the unpresentable in presentation itself … that which searches for new presentations, not in order to enjoy them but in order to impart a stronger sense of the unpresentable.”6 In each of these cases, as with others, we grasp at and fail to achieve an understanding of some notion of “reality.” This is Sircello's main premise: that sublime experience embodies a certain kind of cognitive failure. In these moments we become aware of our limitations; whatever we construe this broad notion of reality to be, it remains tantalizingly out of reach. This experience generates, for Sircello, the first of two themes he identified as running through the majority of sublime discourse, the theme of “epistemological transcendence” (p. 542), which he articulated in the following proposition. An experience of the sublime presents the object of the experience, i.e., the sublime, as epistemologically inaccessible. (p. 545) At first glance, this is not a contentious thesis: much writing about sublime experience seems to suggest that what is unique is just this moment of being overwhelmed by a sense of something incomprehensible, or incommensurable, or more powerful than we are. And, of course, to be made aware of the limitations of our cognitive capacities is at the same time to transcend them, insofar as we reflect on them. This is another powerful motif in writing on the sublime that I will return to below. Sircello's concern was that this initial theme of epistemological transcendence tends to embody a second theme that leads us into difficulty. The first theme interprets “the experience of the sublime” as denoting an experience of an object, although it leaves open the question of what this object might be, or whether it indeed exists (p. 545), referring instead to “reality” at large. The second theme, what Sircello called “ontological transcendence,” addresses this object directly and suggests that sublime experience represents something as existing that is inaccessible to our cognitive powers, something “on a level of being … which transcends that of humankind and all of humankind's possible environments” (p. 545). After all, he went on to say, it is implausible to assert that we have an experience, called sublime, that is without any object, or that the sublime is both an object of experience and one that does not exist (p. 545). However, to imply that an epistemologically inaccessible object does exist, Sircello claimed, is to end in either incoherence or contradiction, and cause any attempts at a theory to fail. Let me take each of these charges in turn. Regarding the charge of incoherence, we must ask how we can have an experience—and describe that experience—which presents an object that is in no way epistemologically accessible. This would be tantamount, Sircello noted, to having a visual experience of an invisible object: impossible (p. 546). Consider James Usher, a contemporary of Burke's, who wrote: Because the philosophers of our days can assign no form, nor size, nor color, to the object of their sublime awe, they conclude it to be vain and superstitious. … The truth is, the impression of this obscure presence … is beyond the verge of the philosophy of the ideas of sense. The disciples of this philosophy … are not able to conceive that an object has been there which was not represented by a sensible idea, and which makes itself felt only by its influence.7 For Usher, we have an experience of an existent object that is inaccessible to our very modes of experiencing, as with Shaftsbury's earlier allusion to boundlessness and impenetrability. This is the incoherence with which Sircello was concerned. However, sublime discourse that does not make incoherent claims falls into contradiction instead. Let me return to Addison for a moment: he lists among the objects of sublime experience “a vast uncultivated desert,”“huge heaps of mountains, high rocks and precipices, or a wide expanse of waters.”8 Burke widens this list to include “serpents and poisonous animals of all kinds,”9 and many in the Longinian tradition count poetry, architecture, and painting as candidates for the sublime, just as Lyotard included in his scope works of art and literature. For the most part, a long tradition of writing on the sublime has clearly described the objects of our experiences. Sircello reminds us that to do so, however, is consistently not to treat these objects as if they were epistemologically inaccessible (p. 546). Rocks and mountains are not things we do not comprehend or cannot comprehend; we would not describe them if we did not have access to them. When we do identify them as sublime objects, we are not treating them as, at the same time, inaccessible to rational thought. So we fall into contradiction: the sublime object is both transcendent and familiar. On Sircello's diagnosis, we seem forced to concede that sublime discourse, so long as it embodies both these theses, is either incoherent or contradictory. This is a pressing problem if we seek to find in the sublime anything of philosophical who to the transcendence of the sublime object are with the problem of how we can have and describe an experience of it, as in the case of But who to the experience itself as transcendent must us what it is an experience if it is not to be a or us that it is an experience of a a a and so the first with the The of the is if we on the of the sublime object, our but if we instead the epistemological transcendence of a certain experience, we seem forced to make some claim about the object of that The theme of epistemological as Sircello it, evidence for the second theme of ontological with which it to be and this seems to imply in can be we this problem and about sublimity in some Sircello left a that we perhaps if we can find a way to the first theme so that it does not embody the For it is the general notion that sublime experience our cognitive has such interest in the it is the ontological has been at the of the I have Sircello proposed that we a of the of epistemological transcendence to any He that “epistemological transcendence may not any and may not directly concern at all, but only the limitations of our attempts to grasp it, whatever it is or is to (p. in we were about some kind of object of experience and in the of sublimity to Sircello his with a proposed of the of epistemological as any possible of of epistemological access to that is to grasp the and that in the moment of sublime experience we are perhaps made aware of (p. 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Let us at this of sublimity more in these is not a of certain of and the charge we from them. interest is very much in epistemological the by which we our cognitive limitations and the of this the sublime, for which we experience with vast and objects, the of imagination cannot them as a in a single as reason This of our imagination with the of reason at first a in our experience of and a that is by “the of a of the of our powers of It is this of mind he “and not the object, that is to be called sublime seems to suggest in these in the moment, we become aware of a of us that transcends the has it, our to for the as a possible only because we a … sublimity only to the of human that the of imagination in these moments our of nature to a that both at its and at the of our of The sublime, is more than a it is an of a of that was sublime is the to which a of the mind of This is in the on the sublime, in which we experience the of nature without being in The of and our of as in with their this sense of leads us to in “a of of a that of our The sublime, up a in us is not but us to that nature has no over for all that it can our become aware in that moment that we may in a there is a of us that cannot be by the most of of or or in our experience of certain What is truly sublime, is not an object of it is an object of thought. 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metaresearch head score (Codex)0.008
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.007
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Theoretical or conceptual · Consensus signal: Theoretical or conceptual
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: none
Teacher disagreement score0.015
Threshold uncertainty score0.043

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CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0080.007
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.001
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0010.002
Bibliometrics0.0020.001
Science and technology studies0.0060.064
Scholarly communication0.0150.026
Open science0.0030.006
Research integrity0.0040.006
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0130.002

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Opus teacher head0.047
GPT teacher head0.276
Teacher spread0.229 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

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