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Record W4416978430 · doi:10.1038/s41467-025-66983-3

Sufficient is better than optimal for training neural networks

2025· article· en· W4416978430 on OpenAlexafffund
Irina Babayan, Hazhir Aliahmadi, Greg van Anders

Bibliographic record

VenueNature Communications · 2025
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldComputer Science
TopicStochastic Gradient Optimization Techniques
Canadian institutionsQueen's University
FundersNatural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of CanadaGovernment of CanadaUniversities Space Research Association
KeywordsOverfittingLeverage (statistics)Spurious relationshipArtificial neural networkDeep neural networksConvolutional neural networkFeedforward neural networkTraining (meteorology)

Abstract

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The array of neural network training techniques that invoke optimization but rely on ad hoc modification for validity suggests that optimization-based training is misguided. Shortcomings of optimization-based training are brought to strong relief by overfitting, where naive optimization produces spurious outcomes. Here, we introduce simmering, a physics-based method that trains neural networks to generate “good enough” weights and biases, paradoxically outperforming leading optimization-based approaches. Instead of optimizing, simmering systematically samples non-optimal weights and biases to generate an ensemble that provides sufficient representations of the underlying phenomenon. Simmering corrects neural networks that are overfit by optimization, and produces more generalizable predictions if deployed from the outset compared to other overfitting mitigation methods. Our results question optimization as a paradigm for training transformers, and feedforward and convolutional neural networks. We leverage information-geometric arguments to point to the existence of classes of sufficient-training algorithms that do not take optimization as their starting point. The authors propose simmering, a physics-inspired alternative to optimization-based neural network training that generates weights through systematic sampling rather than optimization, to mitigate overfitting and achieve better generalization compared to conventional methods.

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How this classification was reachedexpand

Full frame machine prediction

Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. The Gemma side is a direct model label for every work in the frame, read from the title-only record. The Codex side is a classifier learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and calibrated to design-weighted sample rates; fields without enough sample support carry no Codex call. Candidate is the union of the two sides; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.004
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.017
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Simulation or modeling · Consensus signal: Simulation or modeling
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: none
Teacher disagreement score0.004
Threshold uncertainty score0.019

Distilled classifier scores by category (both heads)

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0040.017
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.001
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0010.001
Bibliometrics0.0010.001
Science and technology studies0.0010.002
Scholarly communication0.0010.004
Open science0.0010.002
Research integrity0.0010.003
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0030.001

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.031
GPT teacher head0.316
Teacher spread0.285 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one source (direct Gemma or distilled Codex), not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designSimulation or modeling
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

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