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Enregistrement W2012740927 · doi:10.1353/utq.2010.0131

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Agora: Ancient Greek and Roman Humour (review)

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Ian C. Storey

Notice bibliographique

RevueUniversity of Toronto Quarterly · 2010
Typearticle
Langueen
DomaineSocial Sciences
ThématiqueClassical Antiquity Studies
Établissements canadiensnon disponible
Organismes subventionnairesnon disponible
Mots-clésComedyLiteratureAgoraArtCharacter (mathematics)Ancient GreekThe ThingIntellectBattleCiceroIambic pentameterPhilosophyHistoryPoetryAncient historyTheology

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Reviewed by: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Agora: Ancient Greek and Roman Humour Ian C. Storey (bio) R. Drew Griffith and Robert B. Marks. A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Agora: Ancient Greek and Roman Humour. Legacy. 2007. vi, 234. $29.95 In this lively volume the authors advance two essential theses: that the ancients 'didn't take themselves too seriously,' and that ancient humour was based on character rather than situation. For the first, this book is a useful corrective to a too-sober and reverent view of the 'classics,' but I take issue with the second, especially with the limited scope of the material discussed. The subtitle says it all: this book is about 'humour,' defined as 'what we find funny.' But 'funny' includes more than just 'humour.' I have always found useful Norwood's (Greek Comedy) distinction concerning the incongruous: when the intellect is the function employed, wit results; when it is the imagination, fun results; when it is the emotions, humour results. And it is humour, especially humour of character, that dominates this book. Imagination (the wonderful fantasies of Old Comedy and Lucian) does not get much attention, although to be fair the authors do cite briefly the mock-epic Battle of the Frogs & Mice and quote at length Apuleius's marvellous episode of Lucius and the wine-skins (Metamorphoses 2.31-3.10). Nor is there much about the iambic tradition, either of the early poets (surely Archilochus should loom large in a study of ancient humour) or of to onomasti komoidein (to make fun of by name in comedy). Chapters 5-9 are essentially a collection of comic types around which the humour of character is developed: parasite, flatterer, alazon, informer, quack, 'egghead' (the best translation of scholastikos?), loner, glutton, cook, and - for women - the shrew, the gossip, the slut, etc. Here we encounter [End Page 483] one of the major stumbling blocks of this study, that the material discussed ranges all over the ancient world, from both Greek and Roman sources (not until page 185 are we alerted to the difference between these two cultures), and the reader is not told what genre is involved (serious epic, self-referential comedy, Roman prose novel, etc.). In chapter 3 ('A Funny World') we jump from St Augustine to Homer's Iliad to Catullus to anecdotes about Diogenes, without being given the basic information about the authors cited to locate them in their historical and literary context. One of the co-authors describes this volume as 'a textbook on ancient humour,' but to be effective it would need to be amplified substantially and constantly with background information. A study of humour in Greek antiquity should rest on two pillars: Aristophanes (or Old Comedy more generally) and Lucian. These form a useful pair for teaching ancient comedy: Greek city-state versus Roman imperial period, verse versus prose, watched versus read, 'primary' versus 'secondary' (to borrow terms from epic). We do get considerable material from Aristophanes, but a rather sanitized Aristophanes, for there is no discussion of either the imaginative fantasy that underpins his comedy or of the personal humour that the ancients saw as the quintessence of Old Comedy. Most attention is given to Clouds, a partial revision (never staged) of a not particularly funny play. Lucian does not even appear in the index - a startling omission, since required reading for students of ancient humour should include his Dialogues of the Gods and his 'True' History. It is probably not accidental that these two, along with Martial (another inexplicable absence), are the principal exponents of wit in ancient literature. A revealing comment gives the game away: '[T]he Greeks were unable to think, "there but for the grace of God, go I."' But see Sophocles' Ajax 121-6. This distressing social correctness shows in my Latin students' distaste for Martial ('he is insulting people') and - mirabile dictu - drama students who prefer Menander to Aristophanes. The reader will learn a great deal from this book, especially about the etymology of key words: humour as a medical term, zany (from an Italian clown), the proper meaning of eiron (ironist), joke (skoptein) from...

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Imitation des enseignants

Ni prévalence calibrée, ni vérité terrain. Validation humaine à venir. Apprise à partir de 10 348 étiquettes directes de Codex et de 10 348 étiquettes directes de Gemma. Le mode candidate est l'union des têtes enseignantes seuillées; le consensus est leur intersection. Ces sorties portent le statut machine_predicted_unvalidated et ne sont ni des étiquettes humaines ni des étiquettes directes de modèles de pointe.

score de la tête « metaresearch » (Codex)0,001
score de la tête « metaresearch » (Gemma)0,000
Version: codex-gemma-dda1882f352aStatut de validation: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Catégories candidatesaucune
Catégories consensuellesaucune
DomaineSignal candidat: aucune · Signal consensuel: aucune
Devis d'étudeSignal candidat: Sans objet · Signal consensuel: aucune
GenreSignal candidat: Empirique · Signal consensuel: Empirique
Score de désaccord entre enseignants0,594
Score d'incertitude au seuil0,978

Scores Codex et Gemma par catégorie

CatégorieCodexGemma
Métarecherche0,0010,000
Méta-épidémiologie (sens strict)0,0000,000
Méta-épidémiologie (sens large)0,0000,000
Bibliométrie0,0000,000
Études des sciences et des technologies0,0010,000
Communication savante0,0000,000
Science ouverte0,0000,000
Intégrité de la recherche0,0000,000
Charge utile insuffisante (le modèle a refusé de juger)0,0000,000

Scores machine (provisoires)

Les deux têtes enseignantes du modèle étudiant, lues sur ce travail. Un score ordonne la base pour la relecture; il n'affirme jamais une catégorie, et le statut de validation accompagne chaque rangée tel quel.

Scores de référence d'un modèle non mature (critères de maturité non atteints, 7 itérations). Un score ordonne; il n'affirme jamais une catégorie.

Tête enseignante Opus0,017
Tête enseignante GPT0,247
Écart entre enseignants0,230 · la distance entre les deux têtes enseignantes sur ce seul travail
Statut de validationscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · tel quel depuis la passe de notation : score_only signifie que le nombre peut ordonner les travaux, et qu'aucune étiquette de catégorie n'en découle

Classification

machine, non validée

Prédiction automatique; un appel candidat d’une seule tête enseignante, pas un consensus.

Les modèles n’ont appliqué aucune catégorie : rien dans la taxonomie ne correspondait à ce travail.
Devis d'étudeSans objet
Domainenon disponible
GenreEmpirique

Le détail, modèle par modèle et score par score, se trouve en fin de page sous « Comment cette classification a été obtenue ».

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