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Record W2150891076 · doi:10.1093/humrep/det288

Reply: GnRHa trigger and modified luteal support with one bolus of hCG should be used with caution in extreme responder patients

2013· letter· en· W2150891076 on OpenAlexaff
Barış Ata, Ayşe Seyhan, Mehtap Polat, Weon‐Young Son, Hakan Yaralı́, Michael H. Dahan

Bibliographic record

VenueHuman Reproduction · 2013
Typeletter
Languageen
FieldHealth Professions
TopicPressure Ulcer Prevention and Management
Canadian institutionsMcGill University
Fundersnot available
KeywordsLuteal phaseBolus (digestion)MedicinePoor responderAndrologyGynecologyInternal medicineFollicular phase

Abstract

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Dear Sir, We read Dr Humaidan's letter with great interest. We are pleased to see that our report of five cases of severe early ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) following the agonist trigger + 1500 IU hCG luteal support protocol draws attention and stimulates further debate. There is no doubt that debate benefits science and patient care. In response to Dr Humaidan's comments, we have several questions, which we wish to pose as well as reply to several issues that arose. First, we are surprised to learn that Dr Humaidan et al. have excluded women who had >25 follicles of ≥11 mm on the day of trigger from their subsequent trial. They state that this was decided ‘based on the results of a previous pilot study in OHSS risk patients’ (Humaidan, 2009) Although we find this a sound decision based on our own experience (Seyhan et al., 2013), we fail to see how Dr Humaidan arrived at this decision based on his former publication. Dr Humaidan's former study included exactly the same population as the women who were excluded from the subsequent trial (>25 follicles of ≥11 mm on the day of trigger) and he has reported not having a single case of severe early or late OHSS despite the mean estradiol level of 5066 pg/ml on the day of trigger and a mean number of 21.5 oocytes collected. Moreover, the live birth rate was excellent at 50% after fresh transfer of an average 1.7 embryos. Indeed, his conclusion was ‘The advantages of the present procedure compared with a total freeze are the avoidance of the psychological distress of a cancelled transfer, the avoidance of embryo loss due to the freezing and thawing procedure and lower pregnancy rates in thaw cycles’. He called for ‘more and larger studies to confirm the present report …’. It is now surprising to see that he calls a similar study using the same protocol in a similar group of patients ‘unethical’. We would like to note that our patients were given this treatment because we thought they would benefit from it, based on the published literature (Humaidan, 2009). They were not given this treatment for the purpose of a prospective study. In his 2009 paper, Dr Humaidan also heralded obtaining ethics committee approval for an upcoming trial, which would compare 1500 hCG with a lower dose in the high responder patients. No change in the study population was mentioned. We are curious to learn what has changed Dr Humaidan's mind even before the publication of our report, as there were only a few late onset OHSS cases following this protocol published in the literature and no cases of early OHSS. Dr Humadian also questions a discrepancy between the follicular count and the actual number of oocytes collected in our series. The follicular counts reported in our study reflected only follicles >12 mm on the day of trigger. We are unaware of Dr Humaidan's oocyte collection technique, but it is possible to collect mature oocytes even from follicles that are <10 mm on the day of collection (Salha et al., 1998; Triwitayakorn et al., 2003). Thanks to our vast experience from IVM oocyte collection procedures, we are often able to collect more oocytes than the number of follicles >12 mm on the day of trigger. This is indeed apparent in our data; patients from McGill had similar number of oocytes collected when compared with patients from Anatolia IVF, despite the latter having significantly higher serum estradiol (E2) levels and significantly more follicles of >12 mm (Table 2 of the original paper). Moreover, all four women with >40 oocytes collected in our series were from McGill and they had serum E2 levels of 2563, 2779.9, 4958 and 5588.94 pg/ml and they had 9, 15, 17 and 30 follicles ≥12 mm. Apparently, three of these four women would not be excluded from the recent, yet unpublished trial by Humaidan et al. and would have received 1500 IU hCG or the comparator, which also involved some hCG following the agonist trigger. Although Humaidan et al. did not mention in their letter, they could be critical about the accuracy of ultrasound monitoring or the quality of our ultrasound equipment used in our study. In order to save from limited space we would like to refer them to our paper on ultrasound monitoring of stimulated IVF cycles, which specifies the equipment used in our center (GE Voluson E8 Expert) and our method of follicle measurements (Ata et al., 2011). We admire Dr Humaidan's work in improving the agonist trigger + 1500 IU hCG luteal rescue protocol, which benefits most patients at risk and we are happy to see that he agrees with us in recommending avoiding any hCG injections to women under high risk and offering complete cryopreservation.

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Full frame machine prediction

Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. The Gemma side is a direct model label for every work in the frame, read from the title-only record. The Codex side is a classifier learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and calibrated to design-weighted sample rates; fields without enough sample support carry no Codex call. Candidate is the union of the two sides; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.003
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.028
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Not applicable · Consensus signal: Not applicable
GenreCandidate signal: Commentary · Consensus signal: Commentary
Teacher disagreement score0.102
Threshold uncertainty score0.038

Distilled classifier scores by category (both heads)

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0030.028
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.001
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0020.002
Bibliometrics0.0010.001
Science and technology studies0.0050.003
Scholarly communication0.0040.003
Open science0.0020.002
Research integrity0.1020.053
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0090.008

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.240
GPT teacher head0.365
Teacher spread0.126 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one source (direct Gemma or distilled Codex), not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designNot applicable
Domainnot available
GenreCommentary

How this classification was reached, model by model and score by score, is at the end of the page under "How this classification was reached".

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