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Record W2321328495 · doi:10.1097/acm.0b013e31828ffb05

In Reply to Petrie and Campbell

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Jonathan Sherbino, Geoffrey R. Norman

Bibliographic record

VenueAcademic Medicine · 2013
Typeletter
Languageen
FieldMedicine
TopicClinical Reasoning and Diagnostic Skills
Canadian institutionsMcMaster UniversityHamilton Health Sciences
Fundersnot available
KeywordsAssertionFallacyAsidePsychologyComputer scienceEpistemologyCognitive psychologyPhilosophyLinguistics

Abstract

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We thank Dr. Petrie and Dr. Campbell for their thoughtful comments on our report. They claim that we have committed the round trip fallacy. We understand the distinction between absence of evidence and evidence of absence, but if System 1 reasoning is both more common and more error prone than System 2, then it does follow that errors in diagnostic reasoning would primarily arise from System 1. In any case, we were quoting Croskerry,1 who stated, “Most errors occur with Type 1 [System 1] … whereas Type 2 [System 2] errors are infrequent and unexpected.” Moreover, while Petrie and Campbell may be convinced that the literature supports their assertion that System 1 is more error-prone, they do not provide any evidence, nor are we aware of any, aside from that shown in studies by Schmidt, Mamede, and others (referenced in our report), in which the studies were designed to induce System 1 errors. More substantially, we do not view our study as supporting or refuting a dual processing model. Rather, we were careful to state only that “we found no support for the assertion that a longer time to diagnosis results in fewer processing errors,” which follows from dual processing theory but does not prove it. Petrie and Campbell say that the conflating of rapid processing with System 1 is not consistent with descriptions of System 1 and System 2 thinking by Kahneman and others. We beg to differ, quoting Kahneman: [dual process theory]…distinguishes two generic modes of cognitive function: an intuitive mode in which judgments and decisions are made automatically and rapidly, and a controlled mode, which is deliberate and slower.2(p449) The operations of System 1 are typically fast, automatic, effortless, associative, implicit… The operations of System 2 are slower, serial, effortful….3(p698) We find it ironic that the authors accuse us of falling prey to another bias, the “narrative fallacy,” in which plausible is viewed as causal. It may seem plausible to many observers that rapid decisions, based on unconscious intuitions, may well lead to errors, and that these can be corrected by introspection, reflection, and other “higher” cognitive strategies. But our studies have shown exactly the opposite – that what is plausible to many observers is wrong. Finally, Petrie and Campbell take issue with the equating of a dual process account with evidence of a continuum of response time. We actually concur; we accept completely Jacoby’s assertion4 that there are no pure System 1 tasks and System 2 tasks. Rather, if we assume that every task is a linear combination of a rapid intuitive System 1 and a slower analytic System 2 component (recognizing that a linear combination is a gross over-simplification), it is trivial to show that one can reproduce a continuum of response times by simply varying the contribution of rapid and slow components. Jonathan Sherbino, MD Associate professor, Emergency Medicine, McMaster University Faculty of Health Sciences, Hamilton, Canada. Geoffrey R. Norman, PhD Professor, clinical epidemiology and biostatistics, McMaster University Faculty of Health Sciences, Hamilton Canada; [email protected]

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How this classification was reachedexpand

Full frame machine prediction

Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. The Gemma side is a direct model label for every work in the frame, read from the title-only record. The Codex side is a classifier learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and calibrated to design-weighted sample rates; fields without enough sample support carry no Codex call. Candidate is the union of the two sides; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.012
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.111
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Not applicable · Consensus signal: Not applicable
GenreCandidate signal: Commentary · Consensus signal: Commentary
Teacher disagreement score0.045
Threshold uncertainty score0.066

Distilled classifier scores by category (both heads)

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0120.111
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.002
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0030.002
Bibliometrics0.0010.002
Science and technology studies0.0040.006
Scholarly communication0.0060.009
Open science0.0070.004
Research integrity0.0450.089
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0090.010

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.040
GPT teacher head0.363
Teacher spread0.324 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one source (direct Gemma or distilled Codex), not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designNot applicable
Domainnot available
GenreCommentary

How this classification was reached, model by model and score by score, is at the end of the page under "How this classification was reached".

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