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Record W4410064948 · doi:10.1016/j.neunet.2025.107441

CLPNets: Coupled Lie–Poisson neural networks for multi-part Hamiltonian systems with symmetries

2025· article· en· W4410064948 on OpenAlexafffund
Christopher Eldred, François Gay–Balmaz, Vakhtang Putkaradze

Bibliographic record

VenueNeural Networks · 2025
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldPhysics and Astronomy
TopicModel Reduction and Neural Networks
Canadian institutionsUniversity of Alberta
FundersNatural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of CanadaNanyang Technological UniversityU.S. Department of Energy
KeywordsHomogeneous spaceArtificial neural networkPoisson distributionHamiltonian (control theory)Hamiltonian systemMathematicsComputer scienceAlgebra over a fieldPure mathematicsApplied mathematicsArtificial intelligenceMathematical physicsMathematical optimizationGeometry

Abstract

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To accurately compute data-based prediction of Hamiltonian systems, it is essential to utilize methods that preserve the structure of the equations over time. We consider a particularly challenging case of systems with interacting parts that do not reduce to pure momentum evolution. Such systems are essential in scientific computations, such as discretization of a continuum elastic rod, which can be viewed as the group of rotations and translations SE(3). The evolution involves not only the momenta but also the relative positions and orientations of the particles. The presence of Lie group-valued elements, such as relative positions and orientations, poses a problem for applying previously derived methods for data-based computing. We develop a novel method of data-based computation and complete phase space learning of such systems. We follow the original framework of SympNets (Jin et al., 2020) and LPNets (Eldred et al., 2024), building the neural network from phase space mappings that preserve the Lie-Poisson structure. We derive a novel system of mappings that are built into neural networks describing the evolution of such systems. We call such networks Coupled Lie-Poisson Neural Networks, or CLPNets. We consider increasingly complex examples for the applications of CLPNets, starting with the rotation of two rigid bodies about a common axis, progressing to the free rotation of two rigid bodies, and finally to the evolution of two connected and interacting SE(3) components, describing the discretization of an elastic rod into two elements. Our method preserves all Casimir invariants to machine precision, preserves energy to high accuracy, and shows good resistance to the curse of dimensionality, requiring only a few thousand data points for all cases studied (three to eighteen dimensions). Additionally, the method is highly economical in memory requirements, requiring only about 200 parameters for the most complex case considered.

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Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. Learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and 10,348 direct Gemma labels. Candidate is the union of thresholded teacher heads; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels or direct frontier model labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.000
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.000
Version: codex-gemma-dda1882f352aValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesMeta-epidemiology (narrow)
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Simulation or modeling · Consensus signal: Simulation or modeling
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: none
Teacher disagreement score0.906
Threshold uncertainty score1.000

Codex and Gemma teacher scores by category

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0000.000
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.001
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0010.000
Bibliometrics0.0000.001
Science and technology studies0.0010.000
Scholarly communication0.0000.000
Open science0.0000.000
Research integrity0.0000.001
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0000.000

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.021
GPT teacher head0.265
Teacher spread0.244 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one teacher head, not a consensus.

Study designSimulation or modeling
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

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