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Record W4416660071 · doi:10.2196/76896

Evaluating Locally Run Large Language Models (Gemma 2, Mistral Nemo, and Llama 3) for Outpatient Otorhinolaryngology Care: Retrospective Study

2025· article· en· W4416660071 on OpenAlexvenueno aff
Christoph Raphael Buhr, Christopher Seifen, Katharina Bahr‐Hamm, Tilman Huppertz, Johannes Pordzik, Harry A. Smith, Tom Kelsey, Andrew Blaikie, Christoph Matthias, Sebastian Kühn, Jonas Eckrich

Bibliographic record

VenueJMIR Formative Research · 2025
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldMedicine
TopicArtificial Intelligence in Healthcare and Education
Canadian institutionsnot available
Fundersnot available
KeywordsDocumentationRetrospective cohort studyOtorhinolaryngologyMEDLINEOutpatient clinic

Abstract

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Background: Large language models (LLMs) have great potential to improve and make the work of clinicians more efficient. Previous studies have mainly focused on web-based services, such as ChatGPT, often with simulated cases. For the processing of personalized patient data, web-based services have major data protection concerns. Ensuring compliance with data protection and medical device regulations therefore remains a critical challenge for adopting LLMs in clinical settings. Objective: This retrospective single-center study aimed to evaluate locally run LLMs (Gemma 2, Mistral Nemo, and Llama 3) in providing diagnosis and treatment recommendation for real-world outpatient cases in otorhinolaryngology (ORL). Methods: Outpatient cases (n=30) from regular consultation hours and the emergency service at a university hospital ORL outpatient department were randomly selected. Documentation by ORL doctors, including anamnesis and examination results, was passed to the locally run LLMs (Gemma 2, Mistral Nemo, and Llama 3), which were asked to provide diagnostic and treatment strategies. Recommendations of the LLMs and the treating ORL doctors were rated by 3 experienced ORL consultants on a 6-point Likert scale for medical adequacy, conciseness, coherence, and comprehensibility. Moreover, consultants were asked whether the answers pose a risk to the patient's safety. A modified Turing test was performed to distinguish responses generated by LLMs from those of doctors. Finally, the potential influence of the information generated by the LLMs on the raters' own diagnosis and treatment opinions was evaluated. Results: Over all categories, ORL doctors achieved superior (P<.0005) ratings compared to locally run LLMs (Llama 3, Mistral Nemo, and Gemma 2). ORL doctors' responses were considered hazardous for patients in only 1% of the ratings, whereas recommendations by Llama 3, Gemma 2, and Mistral Nemo were considered hazardous in 54%, 47%, and 32% of cases, respectively. According to the raters, the LLM's information rarely influenced their judgment, with Mistral Nemo, Gemma 2, and Llama 3 achieving 1%, 3%, and 4% of the ratings, respectively. Conclusions: Although locally run LLM models still underperform compared with their web-based counterparts, they achieved respectable results on outpatient treatment in this study. Nevertheless, the retrospective and single-center nature of the study, along with the clinicians' documentation style, may have introduced bias in favor of human recommendations. In the future, locally run LLMs will help address data protection concerns; however, further refinement and prospective validation are still needed to meet strict medical device requirements. As locally run LLMs continue to evolve, they are likely to become comparably powerful to web-based LLMs and become established as useful tools to support doctors in clinical practice.

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How this classification was reachedexpand

Full frame machine prediction

Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. The Gemma side is a direct model label for every work in the frame, read from the title-only record. The Codex side is a classifier learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and calibrated to design-weighted sample rates; fields without enough sample support carry no Codex call. Candidate is the union of the two sides; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.014
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.059
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Observational · Consensus signal: Observational
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: Empirical
Teacher disagreement score0.014
Threshold uncertainty score0.073

Distilled classifier scores by category (both heads)

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0140.059
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.000
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0010.002
Bibliometrics0.0010.001
Science and technology studies0.0000.001
Scholarly communication0.0010.002
Open science0.0010.002
Research integrity0.0010.001
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0010.001

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.224
GPT teacher head0.560
Teacher spread0.336 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one source (direct Gemma or distilled Codex), not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designObservational
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

How this classification was reached, model by model and score by score, is at the end of the page under "How this classification was reached".

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