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Permanental Rank vs Determinantal Rank of Random Matrices over Finite Fields

2025· article· en· W4417026731 on OpenAlexafffund
Fatemeh Ghasemi, Gal Gross, Swastik Kopparty

Bibliographic record

VenueArXiv.org · 2025
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldMathematics
TopicLimits and Structures in Graph Theory
Canadian institutionsYork UniversityUniversity of Toronto
FundersNatural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada
KeywordsRank (graph theory)Matrix (chemical analysis)Block matrixRandom matrixFinite fieldAlgebraic numberZero (linguistics)Random element

Abstract

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This paper is motivated by basic complexity and probability questions about permanents of random matrices over small finite fields, and in particular, about properties separating the permanent and the determinant. Let q be a fixed odd prime, and let k ≤ n both be growing. For a uniformly random n × k matrix A over 𝔽_q, we study the probability that all k × k submatrices of A have zero permanent; namely that A does not have full permanental rank. When k = n, this is simply the probability that a random square matrix over 𝔽_q has zero permanent, which we do not understand. We believe that the probability in this case is 1/q + o(1), which would be in contrast to the case of the determinant, where the answer is 1/q + Ω_q(1). Our main result is that when k is O(√n), the probability that a random n × k matrix does not have full permanental rank is essentially the same as the probability that the matrix has a 0 column, namely (1 +o(1)) k/qⁿ. In contrast, for determinantal (standard) rank the analogous probability is Θ(q^k/q^n). At the core of our result are some basic linear algebraic properties of the permanent that distinguish it from the determinant.

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Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. Learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and 10,348 direct Gemma labels. Candidate is the union of thresholded teacher heads; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels or direct frontier model labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.000
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.000
Version: codex-gemma-dda1882f352aValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Observational · Consensus signal: Observational
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: Empirical
Teacher disagreement score0.418
Threshold uncertainty score0.637

Codex and Gemma teacher scores by category

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0000.000
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0000.000
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0000.000
Bibliometrics0.0000.000
Science and technology studies0.0000.000
Scholarly communication0.0000.000
Open science0.0000.000
Research integrity0.0000.000
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0000.000

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.021
GPT teacher head0.295
Teacher spread0.274 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one teacher head, not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designObservational
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

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