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Record W4417503716 · doi:10.1002/ar.70113

Endothermy, neuron counts, and other issues: Further remarks on neurocognitive evolution in fossil vertebrates

2025· article· en· W4417503716 on OpenAlexaff
Kai R. Caspar, Cristián Gutiérrez‐Ibáñez, Hady George, Thomas R. Holtz, Darren Naish, Grant R. Hurlburt

Bibliographic record

VenueThe Anatomical Record · 2025
Typearticle
Languageen
FieldEarth and Planetary Sciences
TopicPaleontology and Evolutionary Biology
Canadian institutionsRoyal Ontario MuseumUniversity of Alberta
Fundersnot available
KeywordsCognitionNeuronNeurocognitiveMesozoicFossil RecordArgument (complex analysis)

Abstract

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Last year, we challenged the view that large-bodied theropod dinosaurs such as Tyrannosaurus rex resembled primates in cognition and behavior, a proposition made by Herculano-Houzel in 2023. More recently, Jensen et al. have criticized our work on this topic, raising methodological and conceptual issues. Central to their argument is the assumption that tachymetabolic endotherms should be expected to converge in neurocognitive traits, which follows the recently proposed endothermic brain hypothesis. We here respond to their critique, address critical misconceptions, and argue that none of the points raised by Jensen et al. challenge the conclusions we have drawn. We show that the endothermic brain hypothesis lacks robust support from the fossil record. As of now, no compelling evidence suggests that endothermy coevolved with enlarged brains or elevated neuron densities in either the avian or mammalian lineage. Various fossil groups containing endothermic taxa retain plesiomorphic endocast traits and do not converge with birds and mammals in the relative size and proportions of their brains. Furthermore, we elaborate on our discussion on (forebrain) neuron counts as correlates of cognitive performance and highlight that neuron numbers evolve in tandem with body mass in birds and mammals, suggesting that comparatively high neuron number estimates for some Mesozoic dinosaurs do not require explanations that orbit around exceptional cognitive abilities. Despite these disagreements, we identify significant overlap in opinion between Jensen et al. and ourselves, including in the position that neuron count estimates for Mesozoic dinosaurs will remain unreliable and are unsuitable for inferring cognitive complexity.

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Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. Learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and 10,348 direct Gemma labels. Candidate is the union of thresholded teacher heads; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels or direct frontier model labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.000
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.000
Version: codex-gemma-dda1882f352aValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Observational · Consensus signal: Observational
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: Empirical
Teacher disagreement score0.110
Threshold uncertainty score0.894

Codex and Gemma teacher scores by category

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0000.000
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0000.000
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0000.000
Bibliometrics0.0000.000
Science and technology studies0.0000.000
Scholarly communication0.0000.000
Open science0.0000.000
Research integrity0.0000.000
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0010.000

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.010
GPT teacher head0.242
Teacher spread0.232 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one teacher head, not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designObservational
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

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