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Record W7117244175 · doi:10.59209/ircep.v5i15.131

Scientific, Philosophical, and Practical Elements of Two New Philosophical Group Practices: Dialectic into Dialogos and the Socratic Search Space

2025· article· W7117244175 on OpenAlexaff
John Vervaeke, Rick Repetti, Christopher Mastropietro, Taylor Barratt

Bibliographic record

VenueInterdisciplinary Research in Counseling Ethics and Philosophy - IRCEP · 2025
Typearticle
Language
FieldArts and Humanities
TopicPhilosophical Ethics and Theory
Canadian institutionsUniversity of Toronto
Fundersnot available
KeywordsDialecticSocratic methodDialogical selfVirtueTransformative learningUtteranceArgumentation theoryIntelligibility (philosophy)

Abstract

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In this paper we focus on describing two group philosophical practices, Dialectic into Dialogos (“DiD”) and the Socratic Search Space (“SSS”) (“these two practices”). In the discourse domain of philosophical practice, the closest analogue for purposes of contrastive understanding of these two practices is Nelsonian Socratic Dialogue (“NSD”). NSD aspires to reach consensus by extracting a targeted virtue concept from participants’ personal experiences of the virtue, only after which the consensus definition, if attained, is exposed to Socratic cross-examination, with the continued aim of attaining consensus understanding. It is thus primarily a ‘cataphatic’ or ‘positive’ practice. By contrast, DiD aspires to lead participants into an aporetic engagement with a targeted virtue concept. It is thus an ‘apophatic’ or ‘negative’ practice. Lastly, SSS integrates elements of NSD and DiD, forming a hybrid cataphatic/apophatic balance. Both DiD and SSS, but not NSD, are specifically designed to bring about conditions under which participants will enter dialogical flows states (“Dialogos”), affording them transformative experiences of distributed cognition that many practitioners have described as functioning like a “secular séance” that ignites the metaphorical fire that Heraclitus associated with the Logos, the intelligibility of ultimate reality. The cognitive science, philosophical, practical, and related supports for these two practices will be presented, along with some ethical considerations about facilitating them, and considerations about their relevance at this time of the advent of the AI revolution during the already existing meaning crisis.

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How this classification was reachedexpand

Full frame machine prediction

Teacher imitation

Not calibrated prevalence, not ground truth. Human validation pending. The Gemma side is a direct model label for every work in the frame, read from the title-only record. The Codex side is a classifier learned from the 10,348 direct Codex labels and calibrated to design-weighted sample rates; fields without enough sample support carry no Codex call. Candidate is the union of the two sides; consensus is their intersection. These outputs are machine_predicted_unvalidated and are not human labels.

metaresearch head score (Codex)0.021
metaresearch head score (Gemma)0.017
Version: metacan-v3-hybrid-931329e0061cValidation status: machine_predicted_unvalidated
Candidate categoriesnone
Consensus categoriesnone
DomainCandidate signal: none · Consensus signal: none
Study designCandidate signal: Theoretical or conceptual · Consensus signal: Theoretical or conceptual
GenreCandidate signal: Empirical · Consensus signal: none
Teacher disagreement score0.021
Threshold uncertainty score0.114

Distilled classifier scores by category (both heads)

CategoryCodexGemma
Metaresearch0.0210.017
Meta-epidemiology (narrow)0.0010.000
Meta-epidemiology (broad)0.0010.001
Bibliometrics0.0020.002
Science and technology studies0.0050.070
Scholarly communication0.0110.016
Open science0.0010.012
Research integrity0.0030.005
Insufficient payload (model declined to judge)0.0030.000

Machine scores (provisional)

The two teacher heads of the student model, read on this work. A score orders the frame for review; it never asserts a category, and the validation status ships verbatim with every row.

Baseline scores from an immature model (maturity gate not passed, 7 training rounds). Scores rank; they never assert a category.

Opus teacher head0.241
GPT teacher head0.485
Teacher spread0.244 · how far apart the two teachers sit on this one work
Validation statusscore_only:v0-immature-baseline · verbatim from the scoring run: score_only means the number may rank works, and no category label ships from it

Classification

machine, unvalidated

Machine predicted; a candidate call from one source (direct Gemma or distilled Codex), not a consensus.

The models applied no category: nothing in the taxonomy fit this work.
Study designTheoretical or conceptual
Domainnot available
GenreEmpirical

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